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Gay vote divided in Tuesday primaries
Clinton, Obama backers disagree over who won gay vote

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Mar 07, 2008  |  By: LOU CHIBBARO J  | COMMENTS      Printer Friendly Version

Gay supporters of Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton said they believe strong backing from gay voters in Texas and Ohio contributed to her primary victories in both states on Tuesday, helping to lift her campaign from near collapse and giving her a fighting chance of winning her party’s nomination.

Supporters of rival presidential hopeful Barack Obama challenged that assessment, saying the gay vote appears to have split evenly between the two candidates in both states, while acknowledging that Clinton received endorsements from more high-profile gay leaders in Texas and Ohio than Obama.

A number of gay supporters of both Clinton and Obama said gay issues may not have been the deciding factor among gays in choosing between the two candidates.

“Most of what I hear from our members is not about gay issues because everyone feels they are both good and almost exactly the same on those issues,” said Kelli Zehnder, president of Stonewall Democrats of Cleveland, a gay group.

“Everybody is looking at other issues,” said Zehnder, a Clinton supporter.

Robert Raben, a gay former Justice Department attorney during the Clinton administration who now works as a lobbyist for mostly Democratic Party clients, said the fact that both remaining Democratic presidential contenders are strong supporters of gay rights represents a historic advancement for gays.

“They would both be terrific leaders on GLBT issues,” Raben said. “For once, we get to be just like straight people. For the next few months, the question for us is who would be the best standard bearer for our party? Who has the best position on national security and the economy?”

Raben is remaining neutral until one emerges as the winner.

“I love them both,” Raben said.

Coming on the heels of losing 12 consecutive primaries or caucuses to Obama, including the Vermont primary on Tuesday, many political observers declared Clinton’s prospects for wining the nomination dead in the water and called on her to drop out of the race.

All such talk ended Tuesday night when she beat Obama in the Ohio primary by a 54 percent to 44 percent margin and defeated him in the Texas primary by a margin of 51 percent to 47 percent. She also won the Rhode Island primary that same night by a margin of 58 percent to 40 percent.

Obama easily won the Vermont primary, also held Tuesday, by a 60 percent to 38 percent margin.

The Associated Press reported Wednesday that despite her victories in Texas, Ohio and Rhode Island, Clinton reduced Obama’s lead in delegates by just 12. According to AP, as of Wednesday afternoon, Obama remained ahead of Clinton in the delegate count by 1,562 to 1,461. The count included elected delegates as well as unpledged superdelegates.

Nearly all political observers are now saying that neither Obama nor Clinton are likely to obtain the required 2,025 delegates needed to win the nomination before the Democratic National Convention set for August. In an effort to obtain as many delegates as possible in the remaining primaries prior to the convention, both candidates were expected to redouble their outreach to all constituency groups, including gays.

Gay Clinton and Obama supporters said their respective campaigns each would likely campaign aggressively for the gay vote in Pennsylvania’s April 22 primary, the last big state primary.

The Obama campaign raised eyebrows among gay activists in late February when it purchased full-page ads in gay newspapers in Texas and Ohio and released an open letter from Obama to the gay communities of both states. The campaign ads marked the first known time that a major party presidential candidate specifically targeted gay voters through advertising.

“While we have come a long way since the Stonewall Riots in 1969, we still have a lot of work to do,” one ad said. “Too often, the issue of LGBT rights is exploited by those seeking to divide us. But at its core, this issue is about who we are as Americans,” Obama said in the ad. “It’s about whether this nation is going to live up to its founding promise of equality by treating all of its citizens with dignity and respect.”

The ad, which included a picture of Obama, invites readers to visit the Obama campaign web site “for more information on voting.”

Eric Stern, a member of the Obama campaign’s LGBT Policy Committee, said members of that committee as well as members of the campaign’s National LGBT Leadership Council have been advising campaign officials on projects like the gay ad and the open letter to the gay community.

Tobias Wolff, a gay University of Pennsylvania Law School professor, serves as ...

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Michael Bedwell
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Why didn't Obama have the balls to do an interview with Ohio's "Gay People's Chronicle" instead of hiding on the back page behind that "vogue on the outside/vague on the inside" ad with the photo of his eyes gazing heavenward. Sen. Clinton did one. Read the amazing back story of the non-interview and how he was treated by the Obama campaign by GPC reporter Eric Resnick at: www.bilerico.com/2008/03/the_story_behind_the_reporting.php Mighty nice of the Blade giving Obama free publicity replaying the ad text when he's also refused, unlike Clinton, to be interviewed by you.

Posted 3/7/08 - 8:38 PM


TReznik
Alexandriia, Va
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We do have data on the gay vote from two states: California and New York. Exit polls conducted at precincts with a heavy gay population showed that Hillary received around 60% to 66% of the gay vote. I would imagine this would hold true in other gay communities in DC, Texas, and Ohio. I think the flap over Donnie McClurkin hurt Obama with a lot of people in the gay community. The younger twinks seem to favor Obama but gays over 40 seem to heavily favor Hillary, that's just from informal observation of the gay community in DC.

Posted 3/8/08 - 11:11 PM


Mr Chris
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Understand this as long as this community has racial wounds AND IT DOES. And it's sad that HRC will do nothng to combat it. But rather move on gay marriage. GO FIGURE! Nothing can and will be done Not ENDA, DOMA, or any other bill. We cannot be at PEACE with anyone else until we are at PEACE with ourselves. And that’s the bottom line no matter who will win. You’d rather have the things the community needs given amongst us instead of marching in some stupid PRIDE parade.

Posted 3/9/08 - 11:31 PM


Mr Chris
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It's only hurting Obama with WHITE Gays because they tend to hold a flame to him and not Hillary Clinton. I'm so SICK of this Donnie McClurkin issue. The WHITE gay community continues to use this. When he made his statements about gays at The GOP Conv 4 yrs ago. And you're holding in against Obama? Clinton has been in many churches this campaign season and those same pastors believe the way McClurkin believes. BUT OH NO Hillary you get a pass. But Obama STICK IT TO HIM. UNBELIEVEABLE How Bias this GAY Community really is!

Posted 3/9/08 - 11:31 PM


B Irwin
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I think it says a lot about whose vote Sen. Obama is really courting that he has declined every intereview with a gay publication. Seems to me he is trying to distance himself on the one hand from the GLBT community and put his arm around us with the other. His lack of willingness to interview combined with the McClurkin business have hurt him as well those factors should have.

Posted 3/10/08 - 10:45 AM


Mr Chris
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For GODS Sake what the hell is Sen Obama going to say to a gay publication? I love Gays???? The bottom line is seeing what he will do for the community. Once like I said earlier WHITE gays hold fire to him like WHOA he just can't win with you guys. You all might support Hillary but if the shade is thrown with these super delegates. TRUST it's a rap for her and she won’t win S*IT! Get over McClurkin and gay pubs and find something else to complain against him. Or better yet how about finding a way to have GLBT accept each other regardless, of RACE, & CLASS. Try that one on for size!

Posted 3/11/08 - 3:43 AM


TReznik
Alexandriia, Va
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Consider that Obama has been talking out of both sides of his mouth on NAFTA and Iraq, why shouldn't gays be skeptical of Obama's suppsed support of gay issues as being nothing more than "campaign rhetoric." Obama played the anti-gay card in South Carolina to energize the black evangelical voters with the antics of anti-gay bigot Donnie McClurkin. I watched McClurkin's Obama concert/rally onm CNN... and in usual form, McClurkin went out of his way to spew his anti-gay rhetoric. Did Obama reject and denounce his offensive comments?? No he didn't. Why gays would support this man is mystifying.

Posted 3/11/08 - 2:54 PM


TReznik
Alexandriia, Va
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So it's okay for blacks, like McClurkin, to make bigotted hate-filled speeches donouncing gays? This type of homophobic hate-speech shouldn't be tolerated, period..regardless of the race of the messenger. If Obama was really a "uniter", then he would dissassociate himself with bigots like McClurkin.

Posted 3/11/08 - 3:01 PM


TReznik
Alexandriia, Va
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The Obama campaign INVITED McClurkin to be a part of his rallies in South Carolina. Even after gay rights groups protested this..Obama still went ahead and allowed McClurkin to spew his anti-gay rhetoric on his behalf at campaign rallies in South Carolina. I am not aware of Hillary inviting any such outspoken enemies of the gay community to be part of her campaign.

Posted 3/11/08 - 3:08 PM


Mr Chris
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Oh and By the way if Hillary was a uniter. She would have put her husband in check after his anti-black statements he made in South Carolina and Nevada. But that's OK The Gay community can stay divided it's all good. But TRUST if your girl gets the nod in Nov maybe we'll let her know how we feel.And only God will be able to pull her over because there is not enough white gays, hispanics and heterosexuals to close the gap without us. TRUST

Posted 3/11/08 - 11:46 PM


Mr Chris
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And she won't invite any.she goes to their churches and gets their support and you don't see it on t.v nor does her campaign admit it.once again as a black man i could care less what donnie mcclurkin and anybody else say.his rhetoric is no different than white gays and how they are toward black gays so spare me your nonsense and go support hillary. Nothing will be done about gay rights and as long as racism in this community exists i hope nothing is done. Don't you worried about the church being biggoted how about this community it's more bigotted than the straight community Please

Posted 3/11/08 - 11:46 PM


TReznik
Alexandriia, Va
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What did Bill Clinton say that was anti-black??? Seems like you've been paying too much attention top the racial spin being propogated by the Obama campaign and its accomplices in the media. Seems like you have a major chip on your shoulder... like jeremiah Wright (Obama's Pastor), who said that white America deserved 9/11..now that's racist andf highly offensive. And then you have Michelle Obama who says she has never been proud of America until people started voting for her husband...a wopman who has been exstremely blessed with amazing opportunities and success.

Posted 3/13/08 - 10:30 AM


Mr Chris
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And I do not have a chip on my shoulder if you’re referring to me about the Gay community. It doesn’t matter who supports who in this primary. The community has a HORRIFIC issue with race and no one wants to confront it like the rainbow is unity…yeah right IT IS WHAT IT IS! RACIST. And you think I want to fight for a bill to do this, and that for the Gay community and I go into a bar and get the cold shoulder, or we all can’t be creatively a part of and planning of a PRIDE celebration and we have to sit on the back burner? There is a difference between PREJUIDCE and PREFERENCE once everybody

Posted 3/13/08 - 11:47 PM


Mr Chris
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There is a difference between PREJUIDCE and PREFERENCE once everybody learns that and can accept one another then I’ll move on Gay matters until then FEND for yourself. I have it much harder making in this world being Black and Gay when yours is only being Gay. And that’s REALITY! NO CHIPS NEEDED

Posted 3/13/08 - 11:48 PM


Mr Chris
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And I do not have a chip on my shoulder if you’re referring to me about the Gay community. It doesn’t matter who supports who in this primary. The community has a HORRIFIC issue with race and no one wants to confront it like the rainbow is unity…yeah right IT IS WHAT IT IS! RACIST. And you think I want to fight for a bill to do this, and that for the Gay community and I go into a bar and get the cold shoulder, or we all can’t be creatively a part of and planning of a PRIDE celebration and we have to sit on the back burner?

Posted 3/13/08 - 11:49 PM


Mr Chris
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Then everybody wants to take that 1 minority that has broken through and really made it. And say well look at him/her she did. And we all know they’re not going to let us all through like that.She felt proud because she is starting to see that people of all races can rise above RACISM. Maybe the way she said it was wrong but there was nothing bad about

Posted 3/13/08 - 11:50 PM


Mr Chris
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And what Jeremiah Wright said was dead wrong and not appropriate but it has nothing to do with Obama regardless of him being his pastor HE DENOUNCED IT immediately again. And another thing this country has not blessed Michelle Obama with a DAMN thing SHE EARNED IT! BTW you’re quoting her wrong. Obviously you’re not Black so you don’t and never will understand how some things are. When you’re (Caucasian) you can go to an interview and be half qualified. Us, nor Latino’s don’t have it like that we must be 110% qualified and that’s OK.

Posted 3/13/08 - 11:51 PM


Mr Chris
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First of all what Bill said was this. When Jessie Jackson ran for President in 1988 he won South Carolina and eventually dropped out of the race because DEATH THREATS from WHITES So Bill was trying to say that Well Jessie won South Carolina also and still lost the nod meaning a Black has tried this before and it didn't work and it upset many Black in the South. It was just something that should have not been said at that time and Hillary even apologized for this yesterday meeting with Blacks in Philly so I'm not being spinned at all buddy. It is what it is!

Posted 3/13/08 - 11:53 PM


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